Sunday, May 3, 2009

Struggling Perez may be placed on DL Lefty has sore right knee, could pitch in relief this week


PHILADELPHIA -- The plan for the immediate future of Oliver Perez became murkier Sunday at a time when some new sense of structure and certainty was expected. The Mets made no decision involving the troubled pitcher other than to exclude him from the pending turn of the rotation, a decision made easier because of Sunday's rainout and a decision with few lasting consequences.

Before the team flew to Atlanta on Sunday, manager Jerry Manuel still was uncertain, though he, pitching coaches Dan Warthen and Randy Neimann and assistant general manager Tony Bernazard had discussed the possibilities. As was the case Saturday, Perez's retaining a place in the rotation never was mentioned as an option. Moreover, Manuel noted starting Perez comes with potential costs beyond the likelihood of a poor performance -- "stress on the bullpen and on the mentality of the team," he said.

Manuel did say Perez could be used in relief this week. But he neither discounted an assignment to the Minor Leagues -- Perez would have to approve that -- nor re-assignment to the bullpen.

"When you don't have to make a decision," Manuel said, "why make a decision?"

What made the situation more unclear Sunday were two new factors -- Perez developed an injury, a sore right knee, and he became non-committal about accepting a Minor League assignment, if asked. Perez had said Saturday, following a performance he characterized as horrible, "If I need it, I'll have to go." But after meeting with club officials in the trainer's room Sunday, he hedged.

"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," Perez said.

Perez said the club had told him nothing and that he was more relaxed than he had been after allowing six walks, five hits and four runs in 2 1/3 innings Saturday.

"I can't say anything," he said more than once.

And Perez repeatedly said, "It's not my decision."

Once it seemed to be in response to whether he would accept the demotion. He was anything but clear. Of course, the decision to accept demotion -- if asked -- is his alone. He didn't say whether he had spoken with his agent, Scott Boras.

The injury was a new development. Perez made no mention of it after the game Saturday or at all before that. But an ice bag on his knee was conspicuous by its presence Sunday, prompting speculation -- among players and others -- that assignment to the disabled list had become another option for the club.

Three teammates, one who has become frustrated with Perez's poor pitching, said they knew nothing of the injury before Sunday. Manuel said he had noticed Perez "fussing with it [his knee]" after beating out an infield hit in the second inning. After he had dressed for the flight and the ice bag had been removed, Perez was asked which leg he had injured. He hesitated and looked down before indicating it was his right leg.

"The knee has been bothering me all season," Perez said. "It doesn't feel good. This is my first time pitching with something that has bothered me. It's not easy."

Manuel already had said the possibility of assigning Perez to the DL has not been discussed with him.

The manager's suggestion that Perez could pitch in long relief seemed to indicate Manuel doesn't consider the injury serious. He said Perez could used in an extra-inning game, but how much could he be used in circumstances with so little margin for error, especially on the road. The Mets play in Atlanta on Monday and Tuesday nights. Having thrown 77 pitches -- 41 for balls -- Saturday, Perez probably wouldn't be available to pitch until Tuesday.

Without Perez, the rotation is this: John Maine and Livan Hernandez against the Braves and Johan Santana and Mike Pelfrey against the Phillies at Citi Field on Wednesday and Thursday. Perez's start, pushed back because of the rainout, now would come against the Pirates on Friday night.

That assignment may go to Ken Takahashi, who impressed Manuel in his 2 2/3-inning cameo Saturday. The manager indicated Takahashi might have 65-pitch stamina.

More on olly


The Mets will likely turn to Ken Takahashi, Nelson Figueroa, Tim Redding, Jon Niese or Dillon Gee for Perez’s start, assuming he is skipped in the rotation.

I'd like jon niese or dillon Gee...
what do u think?

The mets will be way better without oliver perez!
out of 5 of ollys starts....he went 1-2......
without him we COULD OF WON all 5.....
WE COULD OF BEEN
15-8 INSTEAD of 10-13

so its your pick folks...do you still want Olly to pitch
or should we send him down?

Game at 1:30


Pitcher- John Maine Pitcher-Joe Blanton Delgado is unlikely to be in the lineup Game on SNY

Mets fall in 10; Perez likely out of rotation Lefty may be sent to 'pen or Minors to get back on track


PHILADELPHIA -- In the messy postmortems of a troubling loss to the Phillies on Saturday, the Mets manager and general manager spoke of forthcoming discussions and decisions, of options and alternatives and of Oliver Perez. A game that could have been won had been lost in the most troubling way, a bases-loaded walk. But that hardly warranted a mention amid the issues involving the problematic pitcher.

Will the Mets ask Perez to accept assignment to the Minor Leagues or will his exile take him to the bullpen? What will they do? How will he be fixed? Can he be fixed? They'll talk about it, Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya said repeatedly. What neither man said through all the hand-ringing, though, was that retaining Perez in the rotation was an option. Evidently, it is not.

So come Thursday, when the Mets return home from this Philadelphia-Atlanta excursion to engage the Phillies at Citi Field, someone other than the pitcher on whom the Mets bestowed a $36 million contract in February will be the starting pitcher. The Mets don't know the identity of the replacement. Jon Niese? Ken Takahashi? But that's where Perez is at his juncture. His work has been so poor, the Mets feel obliged to eliminate him from their plans even though they don't know how they will replace him.

Perez saw to that in a remarkably imprecise 18-batter performance that covered merely 2 1/3 innings. Eleven batters reached base -- six on walks, one of which went to the opposing pitcher with the bases loaded. Some 3 1/2 hours later, Sean Green repeated that egregious transgression, forcing in the decisive run in a 6-5, 10-inning loss. But it was Perez who was regarded as the primary offender on this day; Green was merely an accomplice by comparison.

Perez said "I feel embarrassed," characterized his pitching as "horrible" and seemed to indicate he would accept demotion to the Minor Leagues if the Mets were to suggest that course of action probably would be the most beneficial for him.

"If I need it," Perez said, "I'll have to go."

Perez has sufficient service in the big leagues -- five years is the threshold -- that he can reject assignment to the Minors.

"Everything will be considered," Manuel said. "I'll sit down with our pitching people, put our heads together and try to come up with a plan."

Saturday, May 2, 2009

mets loose 6-5 on bases loaded walk


wow u bring in sean green........1st and 2nd one out....ok
I would bring in krod but no....
ok now its 2 outs
oh crap now basesloaded
now bring in krod?
NO
Green walks victorino and phils win

and the top of the 10th inning
there were runners at the corners(1st and 3rd, 1 out)
Beltran up(hot hitter)
he grounds into a double play....and i know he wasn't sprinting his fastest!

Green is now 0-2


Mets had a chance but didnt come through........
mets had a chance to get out of the inning in bottom of the 10th but they didnt get the double play and/or out! Mets had the lead going into the 6th inning but they gave up a HR to ibanez

Mets- 10-13
phillies-12-11

if mets loose tomorrow they will be 4 games under .500 =(

Tough game, Tough Lose

Well theres tomorrow
lets go mets

ken takahashi

i rather have him as our LHP in the rotation! olly is garabe.....omar made a mistake signing him.
hes 66-84 in Japan and his pitches can be pretty nasty

he just made Victorino hit into a double play...something olly would of never thought to do.

well its still 4-2
bottom 4 and yeah what r we gonna do with olly

Mets loosing 4-2

ibanez has a sack fly RBI
Werth has a RBI double
and Bruntlet has a sack fly too......i think

Daniel murphy has a sack fly RBI
Ollie got a infield hit...so bases loaded
reyes pops up leaving 3 on base

Olly- 92 Mph average 88
Moyer- 88 mph average 83

its only the 3rd
lets go mets~



David Wright is up with runners at 2nd and 3rd.....come on!
david wright pops out and louis Castillo scored
were down by one only!

Olly is done bottom of the 3rd he was taking out after giving up 4 straight walks
which the 4th was to the pitcher and it walks in a run.
6 walks in 2.1 innings
Oliver perez sucks

Perez ready for make-or-break start

PHILADELPHIA -- The Mets are to miss two of the Phillies' starting pitchers this weekend -- the one who characterized them as "choke artists" in December, Cole Hamels, and the one who was sent on a Minor League sabbatical last season and returned to make a significant contribution to Philadelphia's push to a Word Series championship, Brett Myers.

Hamels almost certainty will serve as motivation for New York at some date this season. Even though he's not pitching, Myers may do the same this afternoon when the Mets and Phillies play the second game of their series. Perhaps he will be the motivation that will prompt some improvement in Oliver Perez.

It is conceivable, though not likely, that New York will ask Perez to accept demotion to the Minor Leagues if his performance in his fifth start is similar to his performances in three of his first four. It's an option the Mets may consider if only because Perez has one Minor League option remaining. Perez already knows his place in the rotation is in jeopardy. His 9.31 ERA says as much, and his manager has indicated another poor performance would make him think about a change.

A longer step in the same direction would be to demote the 27-year-old pitcher, who has perplexed the Mets almost since the day the club signed him to a three-year, $36 million contract in February. As a player with five years service, he would have to approve the demotion, as Myers did last season when the Phillies thought pitching regularly in the Minor Leagues would benefit him. The move is not without precedent for New York. Steve Trachsel accepted the assignment in 2001 after the Mets asked him to step down.

New York has few alternatives in the situation; i.e., it has almost no candidates to start in Perez's place. Three of the Spring Training candidates for the rotation are not in position to serve as Perez's understudy. Tim Redding hasn't completed his rehab from shoulder weakness, Freddy Garcia has been released and Jon Niese has pitched merely 16 innings in four starts with Triple-A Buffalo. Niese is 0-2 with a 8.44 ERA.

But at the same time, the club can't afford to have Perez find a solution for his problems as a starter in the big leagues if poor pitching continues. So the Mets must hope Perez will execute the same kind of reversal he pulled off last season after Dan Warthen replaced Rick Peterson as pitching coach. Then, he produced 13 consecutive starts of at least six innings. He won merely four of them, but the Mets won 10. And the bullpen wasn't so stressed.

"I'm looking at this Philadelphia outing as a big outing for him," Mets manager Jerry Manuel said Monday. "I'm hoping to find something."

Perez has worked with Warthen and Johan Santana since then. The objective is for him to "finish his pitches," which is to complete his follow-through. But his problem Sunday when he was battered by the Nationals -- nine hits and seven runs allowed in 4 1/3 innings -- was lack of command and a troubling lack of velocity. Another performance without command, velocity or success could prompt the Mets to complete a follow-through of their own and at least remove Perez from the rotation and perhaps seek to have him removed from the roster.

Pitching matchup
NYM: LHP Oliver Perez (1-2, 9.31 ERA)
When Perez was removed from his most recent start Sunday against the Nationals, the opposing pitcher was due to bat in the fifth inning with two runners on base and the Mets trailing by five runs. What else need be said? This: For the third time in four starts, Perez was removed without completing the fifth, and for the third time in his four starts, the Mets lost. Now he is to oppose the Phillies in Citizens Bank Park. Perez started four games against the them last season, producing a 0.35 ERA (in 26 innings), but merely one victory. The Mets won three of the games. Chase Utley (3-for-16) and Ryan Howard (2-for-22 with 14 strikeouts) have produced a .132 batting average in 38 combined career at-bats against Perez.

Friday, May 1, 2009

Mets win against Phils

On there first meet,(1 of 19) the mets take one, so far.


PHILADELPHIA -- The Mets had been their own worst enemies in at least a half-dozen of the 21 games they had played through Thursday. So what did they do to avoid another such episode? They came to the home of their own best enemy Friday night. And, seemingly motivated by the presence of the Phillies in the other dugout, they played with energy, purpose and resolve. And they won, too.

They scored in the first three innings, taking a five-run lead against Chan Ho Park, resisted when the Phillies flexed their resilience and beat the team that has denied them the past two seasons. They scored a 7-4 victory that included few of the foibles that had led them to a 9-12 record and a fourth-place standing in the National League East.

The victory, the fourth in 10 road games, was fueled by a two-run home run by Daniel Murphy in the first inning, three sacrifice flies, a run-scoring single by David Wright and -- drum roll, please -- an honest-to-goodness hit by winning pitcher Mike Pelfrey.

Not only did Pelfrey gain his third victory and remain unbeaten, he provided a long sacrifice fly in the second inning that momentarily appeared to have home run potential. Not to be outperformed, veteran reliever Pedro Feliciano, who replaced Pelfrey in the sixth inning, batted for the eighth time in his career and drew a walk -- on four pitches, no less.

As surprising as those developments were, the outcome was not. The Mets have won 11 of 18 games against the Phillies since last season. And they have played with zeal, comparable to what they demonstrated Friday night, in most of them.

Pelfrey (3-0) allowed three runs, all in the third inning, in 5 1/3 innings, surrendering seven hits and four walks. He struck out no one. Feliciano allowed one run, a home run by Chase Utley, in 1 2/3 innings. J.J. Putz and Francisco Rodriguez pitched the eighth and ninth innings, with K-Rod earning his fifth save.

Pelfrey, Jose Reyes and Omir Santos provided the sacrifice flies, Carlos Beltran scoring -- he slid -- on Santos'. Beltran had a double to extend his hitting streak to 13 games.

Hit and runs takes pressure off the hitters cause all they have to do is pull the ball the other way!